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Mako
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PostSubject: Clan live fire practices   Clan live fire practices EmptyWed 2 Feb - 17:51

Were nearly to a 4 squad numbers. Most of you play with a few people i tend to see trends of people playing with only 2 or 3 other people. we play team death match and the rare headquarters sometimes domination. N7 used to be a objective clan as team death match was way to simple. I think its high time the squad leaders platoon leaders and even staff personal get some sort of training in objective game types as we tend to be only capable of engaging in tdm in certain situations.

A few places were lacking.

#1 anti-ghost hunting
We get DEMOLISHED by this we have to develop techniques and tactics for removing this as a major handicap.

#2 lack of objective orientated gameplay
We tend to be one dimensional as a clan were good at tdm sometimes we can rally and handle shit but most of the time we lose interest if its not team death match this is not good.

#3 different gametypes
If everyones thinking the same things then someone isnt thinking. We need to expand out of team death match gravely. We need people who are not just good at kd we need objective people, badly. When me or thunder arnt on you tend to have twenty people who cant complete objectives and only 1 at most willing to TRY.

We used to have a wide variety of players i myself am a support gunner. We got way to many flankers and runners not enough support personal not enough objective personal.

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Your second platoon sergeant is calling on you not just you, but the guy next to you, the old man down the block, even the fraking milkman! We need Sappers. We need EOD. We need flag runners. We need ambush experts. We need snipers! Yes snipers i refer you to the previous statement of if everyones thinking alike. We need engineers who can specialize in nothing but area defenses(turrets). We need anti air specialists. We need machine gunners not just support gunners but those who can get into the places we need to open up lanes of attack. Your old Sergeant is calling on you to come up with the next best thing for n7. Take a few minutes out of the day come up with something we haven't seen before or we don't have make it work and improve your clan.
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Z3RO
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PostSubject: Re: Clan live fire practices   Clan live fire practices EmptyWed 2 Feb - 22:34

Before reading this, please keep in mind that I have no friggin clue how to get my opinion across on this one. So if it sounds like I'm being an ass please forgive me, that's not my intention.

While I completely agree with you on this one Kex, there are a couple points in your post that I don't think are entirely the case.

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When me or thunder arnt on you tend to have twenty people who cant complete objectives and only 1 at most willing to TRY.

I don't know about everyone else, but I see people going for objectives all the time. But the problem is they almost always get ZERO support, whether it be calling for help or having someone watch their back, or hell, even reviving them in Second Chance (not calling people out on this or anything, but if there is nobody else around there is no reason you should not revive a downed teammate. Who knows, they might just save your ass afterwords). So I don't think it's a lack of willingness to try, but the lack of support.
And communication plays a huge part in that as well. Aside from the rare occasion when we are all communicating properly (relaying positions and such, not chatting about real life stuff) the only time I ever really hear any sort of communication is when we are getting our asses beat and people are yelling at each other to stop sucking. Which from my experience does nothing except piss people off. We need to get into the habit of relaying enemy positions, and be willing to ask for help when needed (we can't all be Rambo).
Another thing I believe would help is recognition for a good game, and by good game I don't mean an good k/d, I mean having done something consistently throughout the match that helped the team win. Whether or not someone would admit it, everybody likes someone pointing out their accomplishments, however small. Positive reinforcement can go a long way to making us stronger as a clan.


Sort of got off track there, but I think you got my point.
There was something else but I can't remember which part of the post it was..I'll edit this when I do.
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Z3RO
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PostSubject: Re: Clan live fire practices   Clan live fire practices EmptyFri 4 Feb - 21:49

Would be nice to hear other peoples opinions on this as well...If I'm wrong just say so.
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Av8tion
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PostSubject: Re: Clan live fire practices   Clan live fire practices EmptySat 5 Feb - 13:54

Definitely some good thoughts around the board here, although I still think there will never be a place for a sniper in Black Ops, there is a need for someone with an M14 or FAL to be able to pick off targets at medium/long range WHILE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE TEAM... in other words, a designated marksman.

Secondly, something that really should be addressed is killstreak selection. We need various killstreaks to benefit the team most.

The first suggestion is that EVERY member of the team equip the SR-71 Blackbird as a killstreak. Many of you don't get high-level killstreaks, but typically when one person calls this bad boy in, everyone gets one... never underestimate the importance of knowing the exact position of all enemy forces on the map.

After that, people should select their killstreaks based on the needs of the team and their own abilities. Those who tend to die a lot need to go for Spy Plane and Counter Spy Plane, they will get them often and it's always handy to have one or two or twenty planes in the air for the enemy to waste their time trying to shoot down. Medium-Kill-Getters need to go for a mix of SAM turret, Napalm, Mortar Team, and Sentry Gun. Lastly the real big-killstreak guys (Moose comes to mind) should throw on Chopper Gunner and Dogs. They won't be as prolific as the other ones, but when they do get to call them in (especially if an SR-71 was called in by someone) they can be game changing.

Please note that I left a few killstreaks out. NO TOY CARS... for the same kill total you get a Spy Plane to help everyone out instead of one selfish kill that leaves you vulnerable. Valks should NEVER be used as a killstreak, just not worth the high total. Also, never use Attack Helicopter because we want the airspace clear for those of us with Chopper Gunner equipped. Care Package may be nice with Hardline Pro, but for the number of kills I'd prefer getting EXACTLY what we need for the moment instead of rolling the dice for dogs... Rolling Thunder and Gunship aren't as useful as their counterparts at the kill level. Rolling Thunder kills maybe 2-3 people a use whereas SR-71s give you real kills you can use toward more killstreaks... and the gunship can be taken down within seconds from teams that play like us...

Think about this, and please select your killstreak rewards using these guidelines...

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Mako
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PostSubject: Re: Clan live fire practices   Clan live fire practices EmptyWed 9 Feb - 12:48

Another suggestion i myself have begun trying. Use weapons and perks outside your comfort zone. I joked around about smgs how none are every that good but fell in love with the pm63 it surprised me greatly. Try out guns compare similar types of weapons you never know what gun you think is trash will turn out to be your new top gun.
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PostSubject: Re: Clan live fire practices   Clan live fire practices EmptyWed 9 Feb - 17:37

Kex wrote:
Try out guns compare similar types of weapons you never know what gun you think is trash will turn out to be your new top gun.

Like me and my gold Galil... I was an AK74u master for 12 prestiges, then found the Galil and never put it down since...
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Z3RO
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PostSubject: Re: Clan live fire practices   Clan live fire practices EmptyFri 11 Feb - 19:12

Just a thought, but maybe we should get as many of us as we can in a private match and practice/discuss various tactics.
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Mako
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PostSubject: Re: Clan live fire practices   Clan live fire practices EmptySat 12 Feb - 8:50

I think that is a excellent idea and should be cleared or discussed by the battalion staff immediately
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RDF Rampage
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PostSubject: C.S.T.A.T Initiative   Clan live fire practices EmptyWed 16 Feb - 20:15

Having dealt with many of the issues described by Kex; I too understand that it is critical to our continued survivial and sucess as a team to have some form of training infrastructure so that when the time comes for engagement with ghosts or tight quarters we can charge foward with the right tactics and come out on top. With that said I was working ona concept with my previous clan on the same issue several months ago before playing with N7. Thunder would be best to help explain the situation further as we both used to compete against eachother using said tactics. What I have in mins is known as the CSTAT initiative or the CENTER for STRATEGIC TACTICS AND TRAINING (That term is currently in the process of being trademarked) and what this initiative entails is the building of training infrastructure for N7. Under CSTAT member will learn the pros and cons of weapon systems and their practicality of use on the field. N7 members will also learn proper tactics for field which include room clearing and bounding tactics which would serve us better.
The downside to CSTAT would be that with the type of lessons included ; N7 would have to buck up to a more serious stance as a clan. What I mean by that is going from a group of friends who simply play matches every night in "whoever shows up shows up" stance to a designated time slot for practice every day or at least several times a week. It is good that a majority of members in N7 have served the armed forces, but if you are serious about improving for other game types then it is time to start applying tougher standards. We will also have to take a serious look as recruitment standards as is; I put myself on record for saying I do not think our Recruitment staus is best for N7. We need to step away from the Cattle Drive mentality and limit or manpower to people we can trust, as quoted by George Washington himself "I'd prefer a good army rather than a large one". That said, i look foward to discussing the CSTAT Initiative with you all for comments and improvements.
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Z3RO
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PostSubject: Re: Clan live fire practices   Clan live fire practices EmptySun 6 Mar - 14:56

Hmmm, not sure why this got dropped, it was really getting somewhere.

Anywho...

Rampage I definitely agree with you. However, seeing as how a large portion of the clan is still in schooling of some sort, finding a good time to do it would be very difficult. We could take the "whoever shows up" mentality towards this in some way, possibly by just having to bring whoever is behind back up to speed. But all in all, the person that is taking charge of it would need to be getting on the same time, every time.

But keep in mind, this is a game. And tactics that are extremely effective in real life, won't necessarily translate all too well into Black Ops. So the lessons would need to be adjusted accordingly.
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